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		<title>By: Earth2Tech &#187; Blog Archive The Cost of Carbon Capture &#171;</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/07/27/carbon-capture-but-clean-coal/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth2Tech &#187; Blog Archive The Cost of Carbon Capture &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...]    While we can ponder whether “clean coal” is an oxymoron, the carbon capture technologies that some power companies are starting to consider are very [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Adena DeMonte</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/07/27/carbon-capture-but-clean-coal/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Adena DeMonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comment Jim. We here at Earth2Tech are aware that in the future energy will come from a variety of sources. Still, coal isn&#039;t going away anytime soon. In the meantime, we&#039;re interested in any technology that can make it &quot;cleaner.&quot; Of course, coal power will never be &quot;clean&quot; in the same sense as renewable energy, but we feel it is important to cover advancements in such technologies.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Jim. We here at Earth2Tech are aware that in the future energy will come from a variety of sources. Still, coal isn&#8217;t going away anytime soon. In the meantime, we&#8217;re interested in any technology that can make it &#8220;cleaner.&#8221; Of course, coal power will never be &#8220;clean&#8221; in the same sense as renewable energy, but we feel it is important to cover advancements in such technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Beyer</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/07/27/carbon-capture-but-clean-coal/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Beyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the long term, we don&#039;t have to worry about CO2 from oil use, because oil will run out fairly soon  (Maybe the peak oil folks can use that rosy assessment as &quot;spin&quot;.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Global warming and climate change, is really about coal.  We can&#039;t address climate change without addressing coal.  &quot;Clean&quot; coal does not address coal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NETL&#039;s comments about what to do with the CO2 would be comical if they weren&#039;t so insulting.  This is where are tax dollars go, ladies and gentlemen.  For what it&#039;s worth, we can already get plenty of CO2 as a byproduct of biofuel and concrete production, so there is no point looking for a &quot;market&quot; for CO2 from coal.  It is a waste product, deal with it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So when they bury CO2 underground in these structures, who will take the responsibility to monitor them and make sure they aren&#039;t leaking for say, the next 10,000 years?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If we ever get China to capture the CO2 from their coal plants (ha!) who will make sure they don&#039;t just cheat and vent it all anyway? (These are the same folks that kill 13 coal miners PER DAY.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hey!  I got a great way of sequestering carbon underground.  You use a substance which is solid, and made mostly of carbon.  It is dense, and unlike a gas, it won&#039;t leak out under any circumstances.  What is this magic substance?  It&#039;s called &quot;A lump of coal&quot;.  The best way to sequester carbon dioxide is to NOT BURN COAL.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This article basically says: &quot;Yeah, coal is bad and can&#039;t really be remediated, but we are going to burn alot anyway, so deal with it.&quot;  Well, if that&#039;s the case, why are you fricking running building wind turbines and solar panels?  Or worrying about the efficiency of UPS units at 365Main?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is NOT a choice between evil and less evil.  It is a choice between Primary CO2 contributor and Primary CO2 contributor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The ANSWER, if there is one, is to develop an energy system that is less expensive to use than coal.  Even less expensive than when the Chinese use coal.  That&#039;s our only chance.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the long term, we don&#8217;t have to worry about CO2 from oil use, because oil will run out fairly soon  (Maybe the peak oil folks can use that rosy assessment as &#8220;spin&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Global warming and climate change, is really about coal.  We can&#8217;t address climate change without addressing coal.  &#8220;Clean&#8221; coal does not address coal.</p>
<p>NETL&#8217;s comments about what to do with the CO2 would be comical if they weren&#8217;t so insulting.  This is where are tax dollars go, ladies and gentlemen.  For what it&#8217;s worth, we can already get plenty of CO2 as a byproduct of biofuel and concrete production, so there is no point looking for a &#8220;market&#8221; for CO2 from coal.  It is a waste product, deal with it.</p>
<p>So when they bury CO2 underground in these structures, who will take the responsibility to monitor them and make sure they aren&#8217;t leaking for say, the next 10,000 years?</p>
<p>If we ever get China to capture the CO2 from their coal plants (ha!) who will make sure they don&#8217;t just cheat and vent it all anyway? (These are the same folks that kill 13 coal miners PER DAY.)</p>
<p>Hey!  I got a great way of sequestering carbon underground.  You use a substance which is solid, and made mostly of carbon.  It is dense, and unlike a gas, it won&#8217;t leak out under any circumstances.  What is this magic substance?  It&#8217;s called &#8220;A lump of coal&#8221;.  The best way to sequester carbon dioxide is to NOT BURN COAL.</p>
<p>This article basically says: &#8220;Yeah, coal is bad and can&#8217;t really be remediated, but we are going to burn alot anyway, so deal with it.&#8221;  Well, if that&#8217;s the case, why are you fricking running building wind turbines and solar panels?  Or worrying about the efficiency of UPS units at 365Main?</p>
<p>It is NOT a choice between evil and less evil.  It is a choice between Primary CO2 contributor and Primary CO2 contributor.</p>
<p>The ANSWER, if there is one, is to develop an energy system that is less expensive to use than coal.  Even less expensive than when the Chinese use coal.  That&#8217;s our only chance.</p>
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		<title>By: GigaOM What&#8217;s On GigaNET: Friday P.M. Edition &#171;</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/07/27/carbon-capture-but-clean-coal/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaOM What&#8217;s On GigaNET: Friday P.M. Edition &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] by Om Malik  Friday, July 27, 2007 at 3:23 PM PT &#124; No comments    Is Clean Coal Really Clean? Doubtful, but utilities are pressing ahead. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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