Comments on: Life with a Plug-In Prius, 1300 miles on a tank of gas http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/ Helping the Earth with Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:16:20 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jesse Kopelman http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-375 Jesse Kopelman Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:15:55 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-375 <p>Jim, just so you know, many people pay > $0.20/kWhr. So you might want to amend your estimate to $1 - $2+. Still generally less than gasoline and diesel, though.</p> Jim, just so you know, many people pay > $0.20/kWhr. So you might want to amend your estimate to $1 – $2+. Still generally less than gasoline and diesel, though.

]]> By: 136 Miles Per Gallon — Nerd Zapper http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-355 136 Miles Per Gallon — Nerd Zapper Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:03:17 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-355 <p>[...] to be able to be plugged in (to a standard electrical outlet). According to the article, the man is now getting 136.45 miles/gallon, or 1,307 miles on a single tank of gas, much better than the very good 60 miles/gallon the Prius [...]</p> [...] to be able to be plugged in (to a standard electrical outlet). According to the article, the man is now getting 136.45 miles/gallon, or 1,307 miles on a single tank of gas, much better than the very good 60 miles/gallon the Prius [...]

]]> By: Burnin’ All Illusions » The Prius Goes On Forever http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-317 Burnin’ All Illusions » The Prius Goes On Forever Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:44:45 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-317 <p>[...] Earth2Tech is reporting on a modified Prius that gets over 1300 miles per tank of gas, or 136.45 mpg. [...]</p> [...] Earth2Tech is reporting on a modified Prius that gets over 1300 miles per tank of gas, or 136.45 mpg. [...]

]]> By: niqdanger http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-313 niqdanger Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:49:16 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-313 <p>Unless he is stealing electricity from his neighbor, it still costs money to plug in. Instead of seeing his MPG, lets see his miles per dollar fuel spent.</p> Unless he is stealing electricity from his neighbor, it still costs money to plug in. Instead of seeing his MPG, lets see his miles per dollar fuel spent.

]]> By: Jim Beyer http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-306 Jim Beyer Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:12:58 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-306 <p>A rough estimate is that PHEVs use about 200-250 watt-hours (or .2 to .250 kWhrs) per mile of driving. These are numbers for the Prius. So if you assume 40 miles per "gallon-equivalent", that would be about 40x.250 or 10 kWhr, or about $1.00 to $1.50 in electricity costs. So compared with gasoline, the electricity is quite reasonable, but the cost of batteries is a serious issue.</p> <p>It is also true that alot of electricity is produced from dirty sources, like coal. But there are reasonable prospects for producing electricity from clean sources like wind and solar. Even at the elevated prices of these "green" sources, the electricity cost is still quite favorable to gasoline, which has no other econmically viable green substitute.</p> A rough estimate is that PHEVs use about 200-250 watt-hours (or .2 to .250 kWhrs) per mile of driving. These are numbers for the Prius. So if you assume 40 miles per “gallon-equivalent”, that would be about 40x.250 or 10 kWhr, or about $1.00 to $1.50 in electricity costs. So compared with gasoline, the electricity is quite reasonable, but the cost of batteries is a serious issue.

It is also true that alot of electricity is produced from dirty sources, like coal. But there are reasonable prospects for producing electricity from clean sources like wind and solar. Even at the elevated prices of these “green” sources, the electricity cost is still quite favorable to gasoline, which has no other econmically viable green substitute.

]]> By: Jesse Kopelman http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-304 Jesse Kopelman Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:08:36 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-304 <p>The real question is how many miles do you get per kWhr? Electricity isn't free, so does plugging in actually save you money? Also, most electricity generation still relies on dirty fossil fuel powered plants so I'm not sure that plugging in does anything to help the environment either.</p> The real question is how many miles do you get per kWhr? Electricity isn’t free, so does plugging in actually save you money? Also, most electricity generation still relies on dirty fossil fuel powered plants so I’m not sure that plugging in does anything to help the environment either.

]]> By: Paul http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-297 Paul Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:14:00 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-297 <p>Wow, I just saw on their site that the conversion costs as much as 32,500. I love the planet and all, but that is quite an investment.</p> Wow, I just saw on their site that the conversion costs as much as 32,500. I love the planet and all, but that is quite an investment.

]]> By: Paul http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-295 Paul Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:59:58 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/01/life-with-a-plug-in-prius-1300-miles-on-a-tank-of-gas/#comment-295 <p>Imagine if they made a car like this affordable and available for the rest of us? Something like a $14,000 or $15,000 plug-in hybrid? Imagine what a difference it would make is we were all getting 1300 miles per gallon. I bet it would even help "the economy" as we could spend our money on other things.</p> Imagine if they made a car like this affordable and available for the rest of us? Something like a $14,000 or $15,000 plug-in hybrid? Imagine what a difference it would make is we were all getting 1300 miles per gallon. I bet it would even help “the economy” as we could spend our money on other things.

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