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	<title>Comments on: Energy Policy Trends, 30 Years in the Making</title>
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		<title>By: Green Energy News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ramblings and Rumblings: Congressional Carbon Offsets, Kyoto and New Australian PM</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/12/energy-policy-trends-a-30-year-voyage/#comment-4365</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Energy News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ramblings and Rumblings: Congressional Carbon Offsets, Kyoto and New Australian PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] While it is great to see the U.S. Congress leading by example on climate change mitigation strategies, this transaction should be seen as one small sign in a broader sea change in U.S. politics surrounding climate change. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While it is great to see the U.S. Congress leading by example on climate change mitigation strategies, this transaction should be seen as one small sign in a broader sea change in U.S. politics surrounding climate change. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joint Implementation</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/12/energy-policy-trends-a-30-year-voyage/#comment-2673</link>
		<dc:creator>Joint Implementation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great stuff!  Thanks for this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff!  Thanks for this.</p>
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		<title>By: sly_1</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/12/energy-policy-trends-a-30-year-voyage/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>sly_1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Energy politics begin and end with some countries having immense DENSE sources of transportable energy stores, namely, oil. Cellulosic ethanol (if it can be perfected), is none of these things, and can’t be expected to provide more than 10-20% of our domestic energy needs, tops.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People often quote this 10 - 20% figure, and while true, it is possible that we could get far more out of cellulosic ethanol by focusing on bumping the CAFE standards.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If cars got 40 mpg here like they do in say, China, we could get closer to 40% of our fuel from Cellulosic ethanol.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If some of the more fantastical cars being worked on in the Automotive X-Prize competition became the norm for commuter cars raising our CAFE to 100 mpg we could easily provide over 75% of our fuel from cellulose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So if we stick with our current inefficient vehicles then yes, ethanol is a dead end.  On the other hand if we get our CAFE standards where they can potentially be, we can actually displace a huge amount of the oil we import annually.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Granted getting the CAFE standards up that high is a difficult feat, but in my opinion it&#039;s the only way to insure the U.S. will remain a superpower in the generations to come, so it&#039;s a sacrifice I&#039;d argue we must make.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Energy politics begin and end with some countries having immense DENSE sources of transportable energy stores, namely, oil. Cellulosic ethanol (if it can be perfected), is none of these things, and can’t be expected to provide more than 10-20% of our domestic energy needs, tops.&#8221;</p>
<p>People often quote this 10 &#8211; 20% figure, and while true, it is possible that we could get far more out of cellulosic ethanol by focusing on bumping the CAFE standards.</p>
<p>If cars got 40 mpg here like they do in say, China, we could get closer to 40% of our fuel from Cellulosic ethanol.</p>
<p>If some of the more fantastical cars being worked on in the Automotive X-Prize competition became the norm for commuter cars raising our CAFE to 100 mpg we could easily provide over 75% of our fuel from cellulose.</p>
<p>So if we stick with our current inefficient vehicles then yes, ethanol is a dead end.  On the other hand if we get our CAFE standards where they can potentially be, we can actually displace a huge amount of the oil we import annually.</p>
<p>Granted getting the CAFE standards up that high is a difficult feat, but in my opinion it&#8217;s the only way to insure the U.S. will remain a superpower in the generations to come, so it&#8217;s a sacrifice I&#8217;d argue we must make.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Beyer</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2007/08/12/energy-policy-trends-a-30-year-voyage/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Beyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This statement is ludicrous:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Today biofuels are mostly derived from traditional feedstocks such as corn, but one day soon could be derived from cellulosic materials, an advancement that would fundamentally alter the geopolitics of energy.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Energy politics begin and end with some countries having immense DENSE sources of transportable energy stores, namely, oil.  Cellulosic ethanol (if it can be perfected), is none of these things, and can&#039;t be expected to provide more than 10-20% of our domestic energy needs, tops.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cellulosic biomass is better used to make renewable methane anyway (no costly distillation step needed, and an infrastructure is already in place).  PHEVs have a much better chance of significantly impacting the &quot;geopolitics of energy&quot; (that still makes me chuckle) than ethanol ever will.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This statement is ludicrous:</p>
<p>&#8220;Today biofuels are mostly derived from traditional feedstocks such as corn, but one day soon could be derived from cellulosic materials, an advancement that would fundamentally alter the geopolitics of energy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Energy politics begin and end with some countries having immense DENSE sources of transportable energy stores, namely, oil.  Cellulosic ethanol (if it can be perfected), is none of these things, and can&#8217;t be expected to provide more than 10-20% of our domestic energy needs, tops.</p>
<p>Cellulosic biomass is better used to make renewable methane anyway (no costly distillation step needed, and an infrastructure is already in place).  PHEVs have a much better chance of significantly impacting the &#8220;geopolitics of energy&#8221; (that still makes me chuckle) than ethanol ever will.</p>
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