Comments on: Valley’s Green Car Feud: Tesla Sues Fisker http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/ Helping the Earth with Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:42:22 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ford, Magna Can Look to Startups for Electric Focus Roadmap http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-30565 Ford, Magna Can Look to Startups for Electric Focus Roadmap Thu, 07 May 2009 03:28:09 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-30565 <p>[...] — announced plans to build an extended-range electric vehicle: Watch out for suppliers and contractors launching out on their own. This lesson is especially relevant for Ford and Magna, as Magna has set [...]</p> [...] — announced plans to build an extended-range electric vehicle: Watch out for suppliers and contractors launching out on their own. This lesson is especially relevant for Ford and Magna, as Magna has set [...]

]]> By: 10 Memorable Cleantech Lawsuits From 2008 « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-23403 10 Memorable Cleantech Lawsuits From 2008 « Earth2Tech Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:35:14 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-23403 <p>[...] Tesla vs. Fisker: Tesla then filed one against Fisker Automotive in April, claiming that Fisker had violated trade secrets, among other [...]</p> [...] Tesla vs. Fisker: Tesla then filed one against Fisker Automotive in April, claiming that Fisker had violated trade secrets, among other [...]

]]> By: Tesla’s Woes: Loses Arbitration, Lays Off UK Workers « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-20148 Tesla’s Woes: Loses Arbitration, Lays Off UK Workers « Earth2Tech Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:47:39 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-20148 <p>[...] Silicon Valley-backed electric car makers has been awarded initially against Tesla. Back in April, Tesla filed suit in Superior Court in California alleging that Fisker stole design ideas and trade secrets and in June the court granted a request [...]</p> [...] Silicon Valley-backed electric car makers has been awarded initially against Tesla. Back in April, Tesla filed suit in Superior Court in California alleging that Fisker stole design ideas and trade secrets and in June the court granted a request [...]

]]> By: The Modern Green » Blog Archive » Record Setting Production Car To Go Electric http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-18036 The Modern Green » Blog Archive » Record Setting Production Car To Go Electric Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:18:12 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-18036 <p>[...] knows how the car will be able to accomplish such a feat.  Perhaps Fisker and Tesla should quit bickering and get to work before they get left in the [...]</p> [...] knows how the car will be able to accomplish such a feat.  Perhaps Fisker and Tesla should quit bickering and get to work before they get left in the [...]

]]> By: Tesla’s Former PR Director Files Lawsuit « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-14061 Tesla’s Former PR Director Files Lawsuit « Earth2Tech Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:57:52 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-14061 <p>[...] lawsuits dealing with the electric car startup Tesla. First the suit Tesla filed against competitorFisker, then Magna’s suit against Tesla for an alleged breach of contract — now CNET reports [...]</p> [...] lawsuits dealing with the electric car startup Tesla. First the suit Tesla filed against competitorFisker, then Magna’s suit against Tesla for an alleged breach of contract — now CNET reports [...]

]]> By: Greentech Media: Green Light » Blog Archive » Tesla Hires Gun, Will Shoot Its Way Out http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-11497 Greentech Media: Green Light » Blog Archive » Tesla Hires Gun, Will Shoot Its Way Out Fri, 16 May 2008 16:53:27 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-11497 <p>[...] always problematic transmission drivetrain. Tesla sued Fisker Automotive in April, alleging the Other EV Sports Car Company stole some of its engineering designs and used those plans to build its own EV roadster. Earlier this week Fisker filed a motion to [...]</p> [...] always problematic transmission drivetrain. Tesla sued Fisker Automotive in April, alleging the Other EV Sports Car Company stole some of its engineering designs and used those plans to build its own EV roadster. Earlier this week Fisker filed a motion to [...]

]]> By: Tesla vs. Fisker Round II: Fisker Plans to Counterfile « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-11351 Tesla vs. Fisker Round II: Fisker Plans to Counterfile « Earth2Tech Tue, 13 May 2008 17:58:38 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-11351 <p>[...] the Karma, plans to file for arbitration today in an attempt to derail the suit filed by competitor Tesla, which accuses Fisker of stealing trade secrets. The report says that Fisker will attempt to move [...]</p> [...] the Karma, plans to file for arbitration today in an attempt to derail the suit filed by competitor Tesla, which accuses Fisker of stealing trade secrets. The report says that Fisker will attempt to move [...]

]]> By: Fisker Says Tesla Lawsuit “Nonsense” « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10821 Fisker Says Tesla Lawsuit “Nonsense” « Earth2Tech Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:19:05 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10821 <p>[...] 5:00 pm in Startups Electric vehicle startup Fisker Automotive has officially responded to the lawsuit that competitor Tesla Motors has filed against it for allegedly stealing its design ideas and trade secrets. Kleiner Perkins [...]</p> [...] 5:00 pm in Startups Electric vehicle startup Fisker Automotive has officially responded to the lawsuit that competitor Tesla Motors has filed against it for allegedly stealing its design ideas and trade secrets. Kleiner Perkins [...]

]]> By: Ray Lane: Tesla’s Suit Against Fisker “Ridiculous” « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10555 Ray Lane: Tesla’s Suit Against Fisker “Ridiculous” « Earth2Tech Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:00:56 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10555 <p>[...] the lawsuit filed against the car maker last week by competitor Tesla Automotive. Tesla is accusing Fisker of stealing design ideas and trade secrets, but Lane says Tesla’s just trying to generate [...]</p> [...] the lawsuit filed against the car maker last week by competitor Tesla Automotive. Tesla is accusing Fisker of stealing design ideas and trade secrets, but Lane says Tesla’s just trying to generate [...]

]]> By: Tesla Motors Sues Fisker Automotive Over Electric Car Design : Gas 2.0 http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10385 Tesla Motors Sues Fisker Automotive Over Electric Car Design : Gas 2.0 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:55:53 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10385 <p>[...] more on this story, see the New York Times article, Earth2Tech, and [...]</p> [...] more on this story, see the New York Times article, Earth2Tech, and [...]

]]> By: Dan http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10378 Dan Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:21:50 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10378 <p>I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely something unique about sticking an electric motor in a car when that motor is powerful enough to propel said car 0-60 in under 5 seconds and sustain trips of more than 200 miles. Living in the Bay Area I see them driving the Teslas around all the time (<a>pics are here)</a> and they're beautiful cars that are actually out on the roads.</p> <p>Do you have any idea the barriers to entry from a safety standpoint of any new car getting on the road? The fact that they've made it this far is incredible - I wish them the best.</p> <p>(p.s. the circle jerk/view comment was still hilarious.)</p> I couldn’t disagree more. There is absolutely something unique about sticking an electric motor in a car when that motor is powerful enough to propel said car 0-60 in under 5 seconds and sustain trips of more than 200 miles. Living in the Bay Area I see them driving the Teslas around all the time (pics are here) and they’re beautiful cars that are actually out on the roads.

Do you have any idea the barriers to entry from a safety standpoint of any new car getting on the road? The fact that they’ve made it this far is incredible – I wish them the best.

(p.s. the circle jerk/view comment was still hilarious.)

]]> By: Ann E. Mouse http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10370 Ann E. Mouse Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:52:22 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10370 <p>The thing that sent me over the edge was the pomposity and hypocrisy of the tesla exec who posted a long blog entry about how they were not the same as other vaporware startups and why. Great if he gets his rocks off on "solving" technical problems related to making car sub systems work, then call your company a R & D auto engineering consulting firm.</p> <p>Otherwise, shut up and ship something. I'd be happiest if I never heard from Tesla until they built and delivered 10,000 units and they were reporting on customer satisfaction and their improvement being implemented from actual customer feedback.</p> <p>I want to buy innovative products, solar panels, Fuel Cell vehicles, home H2 production systems, kinetic device charging systems, advanced vertical axis home wind systems - I am burnt out reading about all this shit that is 3-5 years out that clogs the tubes of the social news websites. People are yearning for someone/some company who is here to chew gum and kick ass but instead all we ever get is a mashup between a circle jerk and an episode of The View.</p> The thing that sent me over the edge was the pomposity and hypocrisy of the tesla exec who posted a long blog entry about how they were not the same as other vaporware startups and why. Great if he gets his rocks off on “solving” technical problems related to making car sub systems work, then call your company a R & D auto engineering consulting firm.

Otherwise, shut up and ship something. I’d be happiest if I never heard from Tesla until they built and delivered 10,000 units and they were reporting on customer satisfaction and their improvement being implemented from actual customer feedback.

I want to buy innovative products, solar panels, Fuel Cell vehicles, home H2 production systems, kinetic device charging systems, advanced vertical axis home wind systems – I am burnt out reading about all this shit that is 3-5 years out that clogs the tubes of the social news websites. People are yearning for someone/some company who is here to chew gum and kick ass but instead all we ever get is a mashup between a circle jerk and an episode of The View.

]]> By: lens http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10366 lens Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:54:27 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10366 <p>Amen Ann. There is nothing unique in sticking an electric motor in a car. The unique (and still elusive) thing seems to be actually making and selling them. Hell, even if Fisker sold exactly what they designed for Tesla, it would still help Tesla because it would show that an Ecar company finally can do something besides talk.</p> Amen Ann. There is nothing unique in sticking an electric motor in a car. The unique (and still elusive) thing seems to be actually making and selling them. Hell, even if Fisker sold exactly what they designed for Tesla, it would still help Tesla because it would show that an Ecar company finally can do something besides talk.

]]> By: Ann E. Mouse http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10365 Ann E. Mouse Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:11:29 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10365 <p>Maybe Tesla should quit whining and talking, shucking and jiving, and start rolling something off the production line. If not, fold already so we don't have to be subjected to the constant stream of stories about how someday they are going to make the best car in the world.</p> Maybe Tesla should quit whining and talking, shucking and jiving, and start rolling something off the production line. If not, fold already so we don’t have to be subjected to the constant stream of stories about how someday they are going to make the best car in the world.

]]> By: Jim http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10324 Jim Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:07:39 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10324 <p>Without knowing the details, I would tend to side with Fisker on this one. Fisker, after all, is building a PHEV, whereas Tesla was supposed to be building electric vehicles. The fact that Tesla is belatedly looking into the notion of extended-range electric means that their basic notion was flawed, at least for reasonably-priced vehicles.</p> Without knowing the details, I would tend to side with Fisker on this one. Fisker, after all, is building a PHEV, whereas Tesla was supposed to be building electric vehicles. The fact that Tesla is belatedly looking into the notion of extended-range electric means that their basic notion was flawed, at least for reasonably-priced vehicles.

]]> By: Tesla’s Other Lawsuit - GigaOM http://earth2tech.com/2008/04/15/valleys-green-car-feud-tesla-sues-fisker/#comment-10317 Tesla’s Other Lawsuit - GigaOM Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:18:54 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=1884#comment-10317 <p>[...] Staff, Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 12:18 PM PT Comments (0) While “Tesla Motors v. Fisker Automotive” is a juicy story of alleged automotive espionage, Earth2Tech has come across another lawsuit [...]</p> [...] Staff, Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 12:18 PM PT Comments (0) While “Tesla Motors v. Fisker Automotive” is a juicy story of alleged automotive espionage, Earth2Tech has come across another lawsuit [...]

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