Comments on: A123’s Hymotion Names 6 Garages to Give Prius a Plug http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/05/a123s-hymotion-names-6-garages-to-give-prius-a-plug/ Helping the Earth with Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:18:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alex http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/05/a123s-hymotion-names-6-garages-to-give-prius-a-plug/#comment-16533 Alex Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:53:17 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2396#comment-16533 <p>BMW M3 Beats Prius in Fuel Economy Test: BBC - Top Gear chose the most extreme examples to make the point - a sedan equipped with a V-8 engine producing 414 horsepower against the Toyota Prius with its 76 horsepower hybrid motor. The EPA rates the BMW at 14 miles per gallon in the city, and 20 on the highway which compares unfavorably to the 48 and 45 figures for the Prius. In this test, the M3 matched the speed of the Prius as the hybrid ran flat-out over ten laps of the 1.8 mile Top Gear Test Track in Surrey, England. Measurements taken after the run show that the Prius returned just 14.3 miles to the US gallon, while the BMW had 12 percent better fuel economy at 16.1 miles per gallon.</p> <p>I think toyota - just made money on us when sold "green" prius.</p> BMW M3 Beats Prius in Fuel Economy Test:
BBC – Top Gear chose the most extreme examples to make the point – a sedan equipped with a V-8 engine producing 414 horsepower against the Toyota Prius with its 76 horsepower hybrid motor. The EPA rates the BMW at 14 miles per gallon in the city, and 20 on the highway which compares unfavorably to the 48 and 45 figures for the Prius. In this test, the M3 matched the speed of the Prius as the hybrid ran flat-out over ten laps of the 1.8 mile Top Gear Test Track in Surrey, England. Measurements taken after the run show that the Prius returned just 14.3 miles to the US gallon, while the BMW had 12 percent better fuel economy at 16.1 miles per gallon.

I think toyota – just made money on us when sold “green” prius.

]]> By: frankf38 http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/05/a123s-hymotion-names-6-garages-to-give-prius-a-plug/#comment-14846 frankf38 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:31:20 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2396#comment-14846 <p>I may be living in a fantasy land but I think that the car manufacturers are in cohoots with the oil companies. They could easily build vehicles that get way way better mileage than they do now but I think the oil companies pay better. I like to see them coming out with green plugins though. I need to invest in a prius and leave the dodge v10 in the <a href="http://www.concretegaragefloors.com" rel="nofollow">garage</a>.</p> I may be living in a fantasy land but I think that the car manufacturers are in cohoots with the oil companies. They could easily build vehicles that get way way better mileage than they do now but I think the oil companies pay better. I like to see them coming out with green plugins though. I need to invest in a prius and leave the dodge v10 in the garage.

]]> By: christian g http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/05/a123s-hymotion-names-6-garages-to-give-prius-a-plug/#comment-12226 christian g Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:59:15 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2396#comment-12226 <p>As a whole, the auto industry is definitely dragging its feet. It seems to me they are in shock and, again, as a whole, not reacting to the reality of higher gas prices. Sure, I can buy a car from one manufacturer and get subsidized gas for 3 years. Hey, I have a better idea car industry- increase the vehicles fuel economy by just 3PMG and I can continue to reap the benefits of lower fuel costs FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE, not just the three years of the gimmick that is being advertised.</p> <p>Hymotion is not providing a plug in upgrade to Ford Escape yet, just the Toyota Prius (2004-2008).</p> <p>I am not surprised that calling the CHIP dealers out of the blue will not get you speaking to the right people about their involvement as a certified dealer to install the Hymotion modules. The A123 Systems web site specifically says to not call the installers about installations but to work through A123 Systems directly. The installs are not starting until July. My upgrade is not scheduled until sometime in September in Boston MA.</p> <p>Payback is never the point for anyone who is an early adopter in changing the paradigm about energy use. What is the payback on leather seats, side curtain airbags, a 6CD in dash CD Player or sunroof? There is no payback on amenities. Spending $10,000+ to get over 100MPG is an amenity. It is not done by those who want to save money at the pump. It is done by those who have the means and want to reduce their personal climate changing emissions- otherwise known as carbon footprint.</p> <p>Many people spend $35,000 for a car. I spent $25,000 for a Prius and am upgrading it with an environmental amenity for $10,000 and will be cutting my carbon emissions in half in the process. I couldn't think of any better way to "invest" the money.</p> As a whole, the auto industry is definitely dragging its feet. It seems to me they are in shock and, again, as a whole, not reacting to the reality of higher gas prices. Sure, I can buy a car from one manufacturer and get subsidized gas for 3 years. Hey, I have a better idea car industry- increase the vehicles fuel economy by just 3PMG and I can continue to reap the benefits of lower fuel costs FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE, not just the three years of the gimmick that is being advertised.

Hymotion is not providing a plug in upgrade to Ford Escape yet, just the Toyota Prius (2004-2008).

I am not surprised that calling the CHIP dealers out of the blue will not get you speaking to the right people about their involvement as a certified dealer to install the Hymotion modules. The A123 Systems web site specifically says to not call the installers about installations but to work through A123 Systems directly. The installs are not starting until July. My upgrade is not scheduled until sometime in September in Boston MA.

Payback is never the point for anyone who is an early adopter in changing the paradigm about energy use. What is the payback on leather seats, side curtain airbags, a 6CD in dash CD Player or sunroof? There is no payback on amenities. Spending $10,000+ to get over 100MPG is an amenity. It is not done by those who want to save money at the pump. It is done by those who have the means and want to reduce their personal climate changing emissions- otherwise known as carbon footprint.

Many people spend $35,000 for a car. I spent $25,000 for a Prius and am upgrading it with an environmental amenity for $10,000 and will be cutting my carbon emissions in half in the process. I couldn’t think of any better way to “invest” the money.

]]> By: tom c gray http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/05/a123s-hymotion-names-6-garages-to-give-prius-a-plug/#comment-12223 tom c gray Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:27:22 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2396#comment-12223 <p>"Dragging their feet" ? Are you a complete moron, or just one of them part timers? I see that GM has had its Volt program on a fast track, with the highest priority of any development program in their history. You people are out of touch and pretty damn incompetent as liars to boot. Quit lying you silly fools.</p> “Dragging their feet” ? Are you a complete moron, or just one of them part timers? I see that GM has had its Volt program on a fast track, with the highest priority of any development program in their history.
You people are out of touch and pretty damn incompetent as liars to boot. Quit lying you silly fools.

]]> By: kent beuchert http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/05/a123s-hymotion-names-6-garages-to-give-prius-a-plug/#comment-12221 kent beuchert Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:22:41 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2396#comment-12221 <p>"Detroit draggin its feet" - funny, but as I see it, Detroit is the only place where a built-from-the-ground-up plug-in is being developed. The exobitantly expensive Hymotion conversion of which you think so highly of actually invalidates your warranty, produces a car that cannot be serviced at Toyota dealers, throws away your spare tire and requires another new very expensive battery a mere five years down the road. yes, I'd say your right in claiming that Detroit is "dragging its feet." So what does that make Germany and japan, neither of which has even mentioned a date for a plug-in? Nothing like pure ignorance. Get some knowledge before you spout your wisdom, brainless one.</p> “Detroit draggin its feet” – funny, but as I see it, Detroit is the only place where a built-from-the-ground-up plug-in is being developed. The exobitantly expensive Hymotion conversion of which you think so highly of actually invalidates your warranty, produces a car that cannot be serviced at Toyota dealers, throws away your spare tire and requires another new very expensive battery a mere five years down the road. yes, I’d say your right in claiming that Detroit is “dragging its feet.” So what does that make Germany and japan, neither of which has even mentioned a date for a plug-in? Nothing like pure ignorance. Get some knowledge before you spout your wisdom, brainless one.

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