Comments on: Quiet Quercus Trust’s 2 Battery Plays http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/11/quiet-quercus-trusts-2-battery-plays/ Helping the Earth with Technology Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:42:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Quercus Ups Stake in Energy Management Startup Advanced Telemetry http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/11/quiet-quercus-trusts-2-battery-plays/#comment-35204 Quercus Ups Stake in Energy Management Startup Advanced Telemetry Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:17:49 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2428#comment-35204 <p>[...] that have come to light so far (Variable Wind Solutions, Graphene Energy) involve clean power and energy storage, two-year-old Advanced Telemetry is working on a energy and resource management system with an eye [...]</p> [...] that have come to light so far (Variable Wind Solutions, Graphene Energy) involve clean power and energy storage, two-year-old Advanced Telemetry is working on a energy and resource management system with an eye [...]

]]> By: Can Better Lead-Acid Batteries Compete in a Lithium-ion World? « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/11/quiet-quercus-trusts-2-battery-plays/#comment-24667 Can Better Lead-Acid Batteries Compete in a Lithium-ion World? « Earth2Tech Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:01:05 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2428#comment-24667 <p>[...] Axion Power International, funded by Quercus Trust, thinks it does. The company’s lead-acid/carbon, or PbC, battery blends ultracapacitor [...]</p> [...] Axion Power International, funded by Quercus Trust, thinks it does. The company’s lead-acid/carbon, or PbC, battery blends ultracapacitor [...]

]]> By: Quercus Trust’s Latest Energy Storage Play: Graphene Energy « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/11/quiet-quercus-trusts-2-battery-plays/#comment-23900 Quercus Trust’s Latest Energy Storage Play: Graphene Energy « Earth2Tech Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:18:13 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2428#comment-23900 <p>[...] raised $500,000 in seed investment from Quercus Trust and 21Ventures. The investment represents yet another move by David Gelbaum’s Quercus Trust, which was the third-most active venture fund investing in cleantech in all of 2008, according to [...]</p> [...] raised $500,000 in seed investment from Quercus Trust and 21Ventures. The investment represents yet another move by David Gelbaum’s Quercus Trust, which was the third-most active venture fund investing in cleantech in all of 2008, according to [...]

]]> By: Remy Chevalier http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/11/quiet-quercus-trusts-2-battery-plays/#comment-12522 Remy Chevalier Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:30:33 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2428#comment-12522 <p>I have a great interview from 2006 at the end of my Toaster66 documentary with the chief engineer behind the Firefly idea, which is to bring lead chemistries up from the rear so the lead acid lobby hold on the battery industry can be minimized, as to allow more efficient new chemistries to enter the market place.</p> <p>It's all about job displacement, and resistance to change. Better batteries are to the battery industry what LEDs are to CFB... the writing on the wall... higher efficiency = less demand = less jobs = suppression of information, twarting progress. T</p> <p>he planet comes first, but tell that to a Union worker about to lose his job because his skill is no longer required. There is no good reason why lead, or nimh, or li-ion have to cost more than the other... it's all economy of scale.</p> <p>Lead is probably one of the most efficiently recycled metal, that industry wants to survive. Without that industry, all the lead now in circulation, without any new industrial application, would end up in landfills!</p> <p>The moment a better chemistry unseats lead, in price, weight, ease of production... it spells the end of an entire trade. Same thing happened to type setters after the Mac was introduced.</p> <p>But there comes a time when you need to make hard decisions. That's where government has been MIA... hiding under the table, waiting for the storm of controversy to blow over, so all these Congressmen can get re-elected.</p> I have a great interview from 2006 at the end of my Toaster66 documentary with the chief engineer behind the Firefly idea, which is to bring lead chemistries up from the rear so the lead acid lobby hold on the battery industry can be minimized, as to allow more efficient new chemistries to enter the market place.

It’s all about job displacement, and resistance to change. Better batteries are to the battery industry what LEDs are to CFB… the writing on the wall… higher efficiency = less demand = less jobs = suppression of information, twarting progress. T

he planet comes first, but tell that to a Union worker about to lose his job because his skill is no longer required. There is no good reason why lead, or nimh, or li-ion have to cost more than the other… it’s all economy of scale.

Lead is probably one of the most efficiently recycled metal, that industry wants to survive. Without that industry, all the lead now in circulation, without any new industrial application, would end up in landfills!

The moment a better chemistry unseats lead, in price, weight, ease of production… it spells the end of an entire trade. Same thing happened to type setters after the Mac was introduced.

But there comes a time when you need to make hard decisions. That’s where government has been MIA… hiding under the table, waiting for the storm of controversy to blow over, so all these Congressmen can get re-elected.

]]> By: joaquin http://earth2tech.com/2008/06/11/quiet-quercus-trusts-2-battery-plays/#comment-12376 joaquin Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:44:58 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=2428#comment-12376 <p>Sounds very interesting. Where can I find out more about this project?</p> Sounds very interesting. Where can I find out more about this project?

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