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	<title>Comments on: 5 Thoughts on U.S. Solar Thermal from Abengoa Solar&#8217;s Fred Morse</title>
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		<title>By: Siemens Snaps Up Solel for $418M, Eyes Solar Thermal Expansion</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/13/5-thoughts-on-us-solar-thermal-from-abengoa-solars-senior-advisor/#comment-39756</link>
		<dc:creator>Siemens Snaps Up Solel for $418M, Eyes Solar Thermal Expansion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] as Fred Morse, a senior U.S. adviser for the solar arm of Spanish renewable energy giant Abengoa, told us in an interview last year. Decades of project financing experience and an R&amp;D budget on the scale of of tens of millions [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as Fred Morse, a senior U.S. adviser for the solar arm of Spanish renewable energy giant Abengoa, told us in an interview last year. Decades of project financing experience and an R&amp;D budget on the scale of of tens of millions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Energy For Us All &#187; Solar power tower to open in Spain</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/13/5-thoughts-on-us-solar-thermal-from-abengoa-solars-senior-advisor/#comment-21290</link>
		<dc:creator>Energy For Us All &#187; Solar power tower to open in Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] What the Guardian article doesn’t mention is that while this technology is being tested in Spain, Abengoa has actually decided to only tackle the more traditional solar trough technology in the U.S. That’s because as Abengoa’s senior [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What the Guardian article doesn’t mention is that while this technology is being tested in Spain, Abengoa has actually decided to only tackle the more traditional solar trough technology in the U.S. That’s because as Abengoa’s senior [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spanish Solar Power Tower Almost Ready &#171; Earth2Tech</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/13/5-thoughts-on-us-solar-thermal-from-abengoa-solars-senior-advisor/#comment-21278</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanish Solar Power Tower Almost Ready &#171; Earth2Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] the Guardian article doesn&#8217;t mention is that while this technology is being tested in Spain, Abengoa has actually decided to only tackle the more traditional solar trough technology in the U.S. That&#8217;s because as Abengoa&#8217;s [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Guardian article doesn&#8217;t mention is that while this technology is being tested in Spain, Abengoa has actually decided to only tackle the more traditional solar trough technology in the U.S. That&#8217;s because as Abengoa&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Abengoa Rakes in $426M for 4 Solar Power Plants &#171; Earth2Tech</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/13/5-thoughts-on-us-solar-thermal-from-abengoa-solars-senior-advisor/#comment-15386</link>
		<dc:creator>Abengoa Rakes in $426M for 4 Solar Power Plants &#171; Earth2Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] as the Solnova 1 and Solnova 3 plants. This is same &#8220;proven&#8221; trough technology Abengoa&#8217;s senior adviser to the U.S., Fred Morse, told us the company plans to employ in their U.S. installations. That is, if the ITC sticks [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as the Solnova 1 and Solnova 3 plants. This is same &#8220;proven&#8221; trough technology Abengoa&#8217;s senior adviser to the U.S., Fred Morse, told us the company plans to employ in their U.S. installations. That is, if the ITC sticks [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SunPower Profits &#38; Sales Up, Stock Down &#171; Earth2Tech</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/13/5-thoughts-on-us-solar-thermal-from-abengoa-solars-senior-advisor/#comment-14181</link>
		<dc:creator>SunPower Profits &#38; Sales Up, Stock Down &#171; Earth2Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] passed (No U.S. Solar Incentives? No Solar For You.) Abengoa&#8217;s US advisor Fred Morse expressed similar sentiments in an interview with us earlier this [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] passed (No U.S. Solar Incentives? No Solar For You.) Abengoa&#8217;s US advisor Fred Morse expressed similar sentiments in an interview with us earlier this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anabelle Carlson</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/13/5-thoughts-on-us-solar-thermal-from-abengoa-solars-senior-advisor/#comment-14051</link>
		<dc:creator>Anabelle Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting - good work!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; good work!!</p>
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		<title>By: CTYankee</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Katie,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Great premise.  Too bad that we&#039;re handing the brass ring to another foreign firm.  I don&#039;t blame Abengoa, they&#039;re doing what any self respecting company &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; do... make a profit!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can lambaste the domestic investors for funding wild and ridiculous concepts when there are so many rational ways to generate energy from sunshine.  By playing the old-boy game, they keep their friends happy while selling the nation out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can also criticize the entrepreneurs for putting forth so much technical crap, but that&#039;s also understandable... chase the $$$.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The regulations that exist are there to protect the utilities from wholesale disruptions, but there doesn&#039;t mitigate the need for more energy.  And there are 100% reliable methods that can assure that the flow of energy into the grid is uninterrupted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The greatest threat to continued stability of supply is the economic decisions that can be made to idle a plant simply because the profit margin isn&#039;t thick enough -- note: I didn&#039;t say &lt;em&gt;unprofitable&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The BLM is an act of government schizophrenia reversed itself.  But there are millions of acres of rooftop &amp; developed land exempt from the BLM that can successfully covered with solar collection.  Covered, not converted.  We can turn rooftops from thermal liabilities into electrical assets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While the bean counters certainly feel it&#039;s easier to finance huge projects, we&#039;re seeing the quote/unquote &quot;downturn&quot; of the fledgling industry simply because a few project are hitting a few hurdles.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are small ventures that can start to make significant impact with just a few million dollars of capital investment.  There are also superior technologies that are ready to explode into production.  One company is ready to produce parabolic troughs at &gt;350MW per year, with a capital investment of ~$5MM.  There isn&#039;t a mirror factory on Earth that can come close!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These systems can be optimized in the 50-400kW range, for rooftop deployment on just about any big-box, strip mall, warehouse, office building, school, factory, even parking lots.  They can go in &#039;turnkey&#039; and transparently.  They will last 20+ years almost without maintenance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Each kilowatt (kW) of capacity delivers ~100 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of energy.  You buy the capacity once, and you earn the energy forever.  The unit pays for itself in from 3-7 years, the rest is profit.  And with the rising cost of oil, and other energy sources, It&#039;s easy to see that the payback can only get shorter.  Finally there are still incentives available; big-solar seems to need them, we can make do without!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For more information please visit:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.solarandthermal.com/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Light is Green!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie,</p>
<p>Great premise.  Too bad that we&#8217;re handing the brass ring to another foreign firm.  I don&#8217;t blame Abengoa, they&#8217;re doing what any self respecting company <em>should</em> do&#8230; make a profit!</p>
<p>I can lambaste the domestic investors for funding wild and ridiculous concepts when there are so many rational ways to generate energy from sunshine.  By playing the old-boy game, they keep their friends happy while selling the nation out.</p>
<p>I can also criticize the entrepreneurs for putting forth so much technical crap, but that&#8217;s also understandable&#8230; chase the $$$.</p>
<p>The regulations that exist are there to protect the utilities from wholesale disruptions, but there doesn&#8217;t mitigate the need for more energy.  And there are 100% reliable methods that can assure that the flow of energy into the grid is uninterrupted.</p>
<p>The greatest threat to continued stability of supply is the economic decisions that can be made to idle a plant simply because the profit margin isn&#8217;t thick enough &#8212; note: I didn&#8217;t say <em>unprofitable</em></p>
<p>The BLM is an act of government schizophrenia reversed itself.  But there are millions of acres of rooftop &amp; developed land exempt from the BLM that can successfully covered with solar collection.  Covered, not converted.  We can turn rooftops from thermal liabilities into electrical assets.</p>
<p>While the bean counters certainly feel it&#8217;s easier to finance huge projects, we&#8217;re seeing the quote/unquote &#8220;downturn&#8221; of the fledgling industry simply because a few project are hitting a few hurdles.</p>
<p>There are small ventures that can start to make significant impact with just a few million dollars of capital investment.  There are also superior technologies that are ready to explode into production.  One company is ready to produce parabolic troughs at &gt;350MW per year, with a capital investment of ~$5MM.  There isn&#8217;t a mirror factory on Earth that can come close!</p>
<p>These systems can be optimized in the 50-400kW range, for rooftop deployment on just about any big-box, strip mall, warehouse, office building, school, factory, even parking lots.  They can go in &#8216;turnkey&#8217; and transparently.  They will last 20+ years almost without maintenance.</p>
<p>Each kilowatt (kW) of capacity delivers ~100 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of energy.  You buy the capacity once, and you earn the energy forever.  The unit pays for itself in from 3-7 years, the rest is profit.  And with the rising cost of oil, and other energy sources, It&#8217;s easy to see that the payback can only get shorter.  Finally there are still incentives available; big-solar seems to need them, we can make do without!</p>
<p>For more information please visit:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solarandthermal.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarandthermal.com/</a></p>
<p>The Light is Green!</p>
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		<title>By: Sol Shapiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sol Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Right on, Fred.  ITC is absolutely needed as the most critical item.  With a long term extension, we will get a handle in about 5 years on whether solar thermal will indeed start to become competitive;  in all three implementations Fred mentioned - trough, power tower and Fresnel.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Fred.  ITC is absolutely needed as the most critical item.  With a long term extension, we will get a handle in about 5 years on whether solar thermal will indeed start to become competitive;  in all three implementations Fred mentioned &#8211; trough, power tower and Fresnel.</p>
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