Comments on: Gore Calls for 100% Green Power in 10 Years http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/ Helping the Earth with Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:01:52 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: General Wesley Clark: It’s About Energy Independence http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-18848 General Wesley Clark: It’s About Energy Independence Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:09:16 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-18848 <p>[...] In Clark’s view, the path forward is a combination of policy and technology gains, and he said both a cap-and-trade system and a carbon tax were looking to be inevitable. Given that imposing taxes is not the most politically-friendly position, Clark was quick to say nobody thinks it will be a substantial tax. Al Gore, whom Clark attributed with making the U.S. realize the size of the energy problem, has also voiced support for a carbon tax. [...]</p> [...] In Clark’s view, the path forward is a combination of policy and technology gains, and he said both a cap-and-trade system and a carbon tax were looking to be inevitable. Given that imposing taxes is not the most politically-friendly position, Clark was quick to say nobody thinks it will be a substantial tax. Al Gore, whom Clark attributed with making the U.S. realize the size of the energy problem, has also voiced support for a carbon tax. [...]

]]> By: General Wesley Clark: It’s About Energy Independence « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-18814 General Wesley Clark: It’s About Energy Independence « Earth2Tech Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:11:01 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-18814 <p>[...] The path forward is a combination of policy and technology gains, and Clark said both a cap and trade system and a carbon tax were looking to be inevitable. Given imposing taxes is not the most politically-friendly position, Clark was quick to say nobody thinks it will be a substantial tax. Al Gore, whom Wesley Clark attributed with making the U.S. realize the size of the energy problem, also has voiced support for a carbon tax. [...]</p> [...] The path forward is a combination of policy and technology gains, and Clark said both a cap and trade system and a carbon tax were looking to be inevitable. Given imposing taxes is not the most politically-friendly position, Clark was quick to say nobody thinks it will be a substantial tax. Al Gore, whom Wesley Clark attributed with making the U.S. realize the size of the energy problem, also has voiced support for a carbon tax. [...]

]]> By: Google’s Eric Schmidt Details Energy Plan, Chides Lack of Leadership « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-16884 Google’s Eric Schmidt Details Energy Plan, Chides Lack of Leadership « Earth2Tech Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:06:30 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-16884 <p>[...] Intel Chairman Andy Grove. Gore has called for 100 percent of electricity to come from clean power, but in a decade — roughly half the timeline that Schmidt laid out. But Gore in that latest speech, [...]</p> [...] Intel Chairman Andy Grove. Gore has called for 100 percent of electricity to come from clean power, but in a decade — roughly half the timeline that Schmidt laid out. But Gore in that latest speech, [...]

]]> By: Armando http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14359 Armando Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:48:59 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14359 <p>Gore’s plan ambitious?! More like delusional! I want some of whatever he’s smoking!</p> <p>Even if Obama wins and shoves Gore’s energy plan down our throats, there is no way that renewable energy can be scaled anywhere close without the use of nuclear energy. You should know this. Either way, Gore is demonstrating a shocking misunderstanding of the energy problems currently facing our nation. They key right now is to transition the transportation sector from oil to electricity. That it an issue of battery technology, not renewable energy.</p> Gore’s plan ambitious?! More like delusional! I want some of whatever he’s smoking!

Even if Obama wins and shoves Gore’s energy plan down our throats, there is no way that renewable energy can be scaled anywhere close without the use of nuclear energy. You should know this. Either way, Gore is demonstrating a shocking misunderstanding of the energy problems currently facing our nation. They key right now is to transition the transportation sector from oil to electricity. That it an issue of battery technology, not renewable energy.

]]> By: Green Campaign Watch: McCain Blames Obama for Gas Prices and Checks Out Volt, Obama Must Fight Back on Energy « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14339 Green Campaign Watch: McCain Blames Obama for Gas Prices and Checks Out Volt, Obama Must Fight Back on Energy « Earth2Tech Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:01:49 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14339 <p>[...] to panic, Jacquot warns, with gas and energy prices so high. Obama needs to give a speech akin to Gore’s, Jacquot writes: Explain the current situation, articulate why McCain’s proposals won’t [...]</p> [...] to panic, Jacquot warns, with gas and energy prices so high. Obama needs to give a speech akin to Gore’s, Jacquot writes: Explain the current situation, articulate why McCain’s proposals won’t [...]

]]> By: Kevin Whitham http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14307 Kevin Whitham Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:57:29 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14307 <p>Of course Gore has invested in clean-tech, he believes in the technology and its ability to replace carbon-based fuels. He has chosen to support the renewable energy industry with his rhetoric and his wallet. He is simply putting his money where his mouth is, which is something that most of can't say when it comes to the environment. If we can realize Gore's plan, everyone with access to the sun or the wind will benefit.</p> Of course Gore has invested in clean-tech, he believes in the technology and its ability to replace carbon-based fuels. He has chosen to support the renewable energy industry with his rhetoric and his wallet. He is simply putting his money where his mouth is, which is something that most of can’t say when it comes to the environment. If we can realize Gore’s plan, everyone with access to the sun or the wind will benefit.

]]> By: Greentech Media: Cleantech Investing » Blog Archive » We got BOTH kinds of cleantech here: Solar and PV http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14229 Greentech Media: Cleantech Investing » Blog Archive » We got BOTH kinds of cleantech here: Solar and PV Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:42:42 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14229 <p>[...] quarter, so fewer, bigger, later funds is the clear trend… And speaking of Kleiner Perkins, Al Gore’s visionary goal for carbon-free power got a lot of attention this week — and note that he supports the tax shift we’ve [...]</p> [...] quarter, so fewer, bigger, later funds is the clear trend… And speaking of Kleiner Perkins, Al Gore’s visionary goal for carbon-free power got a lot of attention this week — and note that he supports the tax shift we’ve [...]

]]> By: J Willey http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14203 J Willey Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:10:02 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14203 <p>Is there any doubt as to what Al Gore's driver for solar and wind technology to replace fossil fuels is? It surely is not, the environment. It is surely big money in his pocket!</p> Is there any doubt as to what Al Gore’s driver for solar and wind technology to replace fossil fuels is? It surely is not, the environment. It is surely big money in his pocket!

]]> By: kerry bradshaw http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14199 kerry bradshaw Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:58:20 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14199 <p>It's pretty obvious to those who understand energy needs and generation capacities, that decisions cannot be made in advance of the technologies. Wind power has been a collossal bust and for erasons that could easily have been seen beforehand - non-dispatchability, enormous tracts of real estate required for small amounts of unpredictable, unreliable energy that had to be duplicated by controllable (i.e. fossil) plan geenrators, doubling its true costs. We have wasted hundreds of millions of dollars msotly to quiet the loudest voices around - the radical environmentalists, you know, the ones who blocked nuclear power for 30 years in favor of thsoe coal plants that have caused global warming. It's clear to me that GPBRs are going to dominate the world, but if we're not carefull and reject simplistic ideas coming from a pretty simplistic mind, we may end up with a system that is simply not viable. We don'tneed gren and don't need renewable, two useless terms. We need carbonless and crudeless. Coal and oil are actually renewable energy sources, for those who actually understand what renewable means. Of course, then there's zero emission, which has little to do with zero emissions ....</p> It’s pretty obvious to those who understand energy needs and generation capacities, that decisions cannot be made in advance of the technologies. Wind power has been a collossal bust and for erasons that could easily have been seen beforehand – non-dispatchability, enormous tracts of real estate required for small amounts of unpredictable, unreliable energy that had to be duplicated by controllable (i.e. fossil) plan geenrators, doubling its true costs. We have wasted hundreds of millions of dollars msotly to quiet the loudest voices around – the radical environmentalists, you know, the ones who blocked nuclear power for 30 years in favor of thsoe coal plants that have caused global warming.
It’s clear to me that GPBRs are going to dominate the world, but if we’re not carefull and reject simplistic ideas coming from a pretty simplistic mind,
we may end up with a system that is simply not viable. We don’tneed gren and don’t need renewable, two useless terms. We need carbonless and crudeless. Coal and oil are actually renewable energy
sources, for those who actually understand what renewable means. Of course, then there’s zero emission, which has little to do with zero emissions ….

]]> By: StuartB http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14196 StuartB Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:47:43 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14196 <p>Does anybody really believe this fantasy? Let’s just keep deluding ourselves and see where we are in 10 years.</p> <p>Fossil fuels are not going anywhere in 10 years. Give me a break, New Zealand as a model for solving the problems in the USA. Even if you believe the hype and the illusion about carbon netruality meaning anything you're comparing apples to kiwi's.</p> <p>If it takes 10 years to drill a hole in a known reserve like ANWAR and bring oil to market using well known technology as some claim. Then how long do you think it’s going to take to replace fossil fuels with technologies that haven’t been invented yet? We're supposed to run this country like the little engine that could I suppose and ignore reality?</p> <p>I’m also so tired of the man to the moon JFK analogy. The moon program was run at maximum risk to where even the slightest failure would cause a disaster. Is that how we want to plan our energy for the future?</p> Does anybody really believe this fantasy? Let’s just keep deluding ourselves and see where we are in 10 years.

Fossil fuels are not going anywhere in 10 years. Give me a break, New Zealand as a model for solving the problems in the USA. Even if you believe the hype and the illusion about carbon netruality meaning anything you’re comparing apples to kiwi’s.

If it takes 10 years to drill a hole in a known reserve like ANWAR and bring oil to market using well known technology as some claim. Then how long do you think it’s going to take to replace fossil fuels with technologies that haven’t been invented yet? We’re supposed to run this country like the little engine that could I suppose and ignore reality?

I’m also so tired of the man to the moon JFK analogy. The moon program was run at maximum risk to where even the slightest failure would cause a disaster. Is that how we want to plan our energy for the future?

]]> By: keithacita http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14193 keithacita Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:34 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14193 <p>these marxist ecogangbangers want to cripple and destroy america. in their view global warming deniers deserve the death penalty. their solutions are not based in reality. sure everyone want to cure cancer but what if it never happens.</p> these marxist ecogangbangers want to cripple and destroy america. in their view global warming deniers deserve the death penalty. their solutions are not based in reality. sure everyone want to cure cancer but what if it never happens.

]]> By: James http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14191 James Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:08:23 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14191 <p>I'm tired of the we-can't-do-it attitude when it comes to changing our world for the better. We are at the front end of very nasty consequences of living unsustainable lives and it's not a question of if we can change. In fact, there is no question. Only good comes from changing to sustainable energy like wind and solar. Nothing good comes from siphoning more oil or digging more coal besides the enrichment of a few entrenched corporations.</p> <p>Gore is sometimes a bit overzealous, but why not? Why not bust our ass and get it done instead of wringing our hands while the pollution continues and rogue nations collect giant paychecks from our coffers? This country has stood up to huge challenges in the past and come out shining and he's right, it's time to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and make it happen!</p> I’m tired of the we-can’t-do-it attitude when it comes to changing our world for the better. We are at the front end of very nasty consequences of living unsustainable lives and it’s not a question of if we can change. In fact, there is no question. Only good comes from changing to sustainable energy like wind and solar. Nothing good comes from siphoning more oil or digging more coal besides the enrichment of a few entrenched corporations.

Gore is sometimes a bit overzealous, but why not? Why not bust our ass and get it done instead of wringing our hands while the pollution continues and rogue nations collect giant paychecks from our coffers? This country has stood up to huge challenges in the past and come out shining and he’s right, it’s time to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and make it happen!

]]> By: Tony http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14190 Tony Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:38:34 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14190 <p>It's a waste of time quoting any studies on this subject that have taken place under the Bush administration. They've got an interest in preserving the status quo.</p> <p>Just as evidence that this can be done, New Zealand is well on it's way towards this goal. It hopes to be the first carbon neutral country in the world, and currently produces over 50% of its power from renewables (plus they are 100% nuclear free). I personally think that 100% clean is unattainable in the next decade - becoming carbon neutral is not.</p> It’s a waste of time quoting any studies on this subject that have taken place under the Bush administration. They’ve got an interest in preserving the status quo.

Just as evidence that this can be done, New Zealand is well on it’s way towards this goal. It hopes to be the first carbon neutral country in the world, and currently produces over 50% of its power from renewables (plus they are 100% nuclear free). I personally think that 100% clean is unattainable in the next decade – becoming carbon neutral is not.

]]> By: Jim http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/17/gore-calls-for-100-green-power-in-10-years/#comment-14189 Jim Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:19:08 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=3090#comment-14189 <p>This plan is misguided. It says nothing about transportation, which would be somewhat easier to modify than closing down a bunch of coal plants. 36% of U.S. CO2 emissions are due to coal use; 30% are due to transportation use of (primarily) oil.</p> <p>If Gore was serious about this, then he'd advocate using nuclear power to displace coal, at least for the medium term.</p> <p>Based on this comment, I don't think he understands what baseline electricity means; or he's been sold a bill of goods that wind can supply it.</p> <p>How about this; replace eighty percent of our coal plants with nuclear (saves about 29%), and twenty percent with wind/solar (saves about 7%) replace half our cars with PHEVs powered from (more) wind farms; that would save about another 13%.</p> <p>That totals 49% reduction. Still can't do it in 10 years; but at least it could be done.</p> This plan is misguided. It says nothing about transportation, which would be somewhat easier to modify than closing down a bunch of coal plants. 36% of U.S. CO2 emissions are due to coal use; 30% are due to transportation use of (primarily) oil.

If Gore was serious about this, then he’d advocate using nuclear power to displace coal, at least for the medium term.

Based on this comment, I don’t think he understands what baseline electricity means; or he’s been sold a bill of goods that wind can supply it.

How about this; replace eighty percent of our coal plants with nuclear (saves about 29%), and twenty percent with wind/solar (saves about 7%) replace half our cars with PHEVs powered from (more) wind farms; that would save about another 13%.

That totals 49% reduction. Still can’t do it in 10 years; but at least it could be done.

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