Comments on: Michigan Governor Looking for A Better Detroit? http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/ Helping the Earth with Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:02:09 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Henal Local Coupons http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-36314 Henal Local Coupons Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:02:41 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-36314 <p>What I find so amazing is the "infrastructure setup would cost $1.5 billion, or about two weeks of oil imports. To set up the entire U.S. with the electric vehicle charging infrastructure, it would cost $100 billion" how is it when these sorts of figures are used there is no follow through to actual improvement in what could be a very beneficial area to the world not just to Michigan?</p> What I find so amazing is the “infrastructure setup would cost $1.5 billion, or about two weeks of oil imports. To set up the entire U.S. with the electric vehicle charging infrastructure, it would cost $100 billion” how is it when these sorts of figures are used there is no follow through to actual improvement in what could be a very beneficial area to the world not just to Michigan?

]]> By: GE to Build $100M Energy, Smart Grid Innovation Center in Michigan http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-33755 GE to Build $100M Energy, Smart Grid Innovation Center in Michigan Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:54:26 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-33755 <p>[...] to 14.1 percent, will chip in more than $60 million in incentives over the next 12 years. Led by Governor Jennifer Granholm, the state has been putting together similar packages for battery makers in recent months in an [...]</p> [...] to 14.1 percent, will chip in more than $60 million in incentives over the next 12 years. Led by Governor Jennifer Granholm, the state has been putting together similar packages for battery makers in recent months in an [...]

]]> By: tinyComb » Blog Archive » Governor Of Michigan Meets With Better Place In Israel http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-21717 tinyComb » Blog Archive » Governor Of Michigan Meets With Better Place In Israel Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:24:04 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-21717 <p>[...] Earth2Tech, 2, AutoBlogGreen, GreenCarCongress, BetterPlace, TechPolicyCentral View david's Profile      Subscribe via RSS RelatedBookmarksTags iPhone China... The jailbroken iPhone has been spotted all over China, but will they actually ink a deal with China Mobile for the 3G? Does thi... Direct Line Gets You To An Operator... Direct Line is a new iPhone app that maps corporate phone trees to get you straight to the operator No more need to punch in all th... LinkedIn Gets The Message... LinkedIn, launched their updated 'Groups' section last week to widespread disappointment. Today, they have rolled out a few new fea... Digg it Stumble del.icio.us reddit Yahoo Google agassi battery swap battery swapping beter place better place better place granholm betterplace charging station charging stations detroit electric electric electric car fuel efficiency fuel efficient granholm agassi granholm israel jennifer granholm michigan governor michigan governor better place michigan governor israel project better place shai shai agassi [...]</p> [...] Earth2Tech, 2, AutoBlogGreen, GreenCarCongress, BetterPlace, TechPolicyCentral View david’s Profile      Subscribe via RSS RelatedBookmarksTags iPhone China… The jailbroken iPhone has been spotted all over China, but will they actually ink a deal with China Mobile for the 3G? Does thi… Direct Line Gets You To An Operator… Direct Line is a new iPhone app that maps corporate phone trees to get you straight to the operator No more need to punch in all th… LinkedIn Gets The Message… LinkedIn, launched their updated ‘Groups’ section last week to widespread disappointment. Today, they have rolled out a few new fea… Digg it Stumble del.icio.us reddit Yahoo Google agassi battery swap battery swapping beter place better place better place granholm betterplace charging station charging stations detroit electric electric electric car fuel efficiency fuel efficient granholm agassi granholm israel jennifer granholm michigan governor michigan governor better place michigan governor israel project better place shai shai agassi [...]

]]> By: Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-21005 Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:01:57 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-21005 <p>[...] San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is holding a press conference Thursday afternoon which will discuss “the latest news” from electric vehicle infrastructure startup Better Place. Does this mean San Francisco, or even California, is going to make a deal with Shai Agassi’s company, which has managed to sign on Israel, Denmark and Australia? We’re not sure, but Better Place has been making a major effort in the U.S. lately, and states like Michigan have been showing interest. [...]</p> [...] San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is holding a press conference Thursday afternoon which will discuss “the latest news” from electric vehicle infrastructure startup Better Place. Does this mean San Francisco, or even California, is going to make a deal with Shai Agassi’s company, which has managed to sign on Israel, Denmark and Australia? We’re not sure, but Better Place has been making a major effort in the U.S. lately, and states like Michigan have been showing interest. [...]

]]> By: Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco | Eco Friendly Mag http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-21003 Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco | Eco Friendly Mag Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:59:11 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-21003 <p>[...] San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is holding a press conference Thursday afternoon which will discuss “the latest news” from electric vehicle infrastructure startup Better Place. Does this mean San Francisco, or even California, is going to make a deal with Shai Agassi’s company, which has managed to sign on Israel, Denmark and Australia? We’re not sure, but Better Place has been making a major effort in the U.S. lately, and states like Michigan have been showing interest. [...]</p> [...] San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is holding a press conference Thursday afternoon which will discuss “the latest news” from electric vehicle infrastructure startup Better Place. Does this mean San Francisco, or even California, is going to make a deal with Shai Agassi’s company, which has managed to sign on Israel, Denmark and Australia? We’re not sure, but Better Place has been making a major effort in the U.S. lately, and states like Michigan have been showing interest. [...]

]]> By: Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20995 Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco « Earth2Tech Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:52:15 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20995 <p>[...] Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco Written by Katie Fehrenbacher No Comments Posted November 19th, 2008 at 8:52 pm in Startups San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is holding a press conference Thursday afternoon which will discuss “the latest news” from electric vehicle infrastructure startup Better Place. Does this mean San Francisco, or even California, is going to make a deal with Shai Agassi’s company, which has managed to sign on Israel, Denmark and Australia? We’re not sure, but Better Place has been making a major effort in the U.S. lately, and states like Michigan have been showing interest. [...]</p> [...] Better Place Announcement Thursday in San Francisco Written by Katie Fehrenbacher No Comments Posted November 19th, 2008 at 8:52 pm in Startups San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is holding a press conference Thursday afternoon which will discuss “the latest news” from electric vehicle infrastructure startup Better Place. Does this mean San Francisco, or even California, is going to make a deal with Shai Agassi’s company, which has managed to sign on Israel, Denmark and Australia? We’re not sure, but Better Place has been making a major effort in the U.S. lately, and states like Michigan have been showing interest. [...]

]]> By: Could Japan’s Kyushu Become an EV Hub? http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20944 Could Japan’s Kyushu Become an EV Hub? Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:25:51 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20944 <p>[...] players in the electric car-charging field, with California’s Better Place holding talks this week with the governor of Michigan. Better Place, which is developing its own car-charging network, is [...]</p> [...] players in the electric car-charging field, with California’s Better Place holding talks this week with the governor of Michigan. Better Place, which is developing its own car-charging network, is [...]

]]> By: Could Japan’s Kyushu Become an EV Hub? | Eco Friendly Mag http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20938 Could Japan’s Kyushu Become an EV Hub? | Eco Friendly Mag Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:04:45 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20938 <p>[...] players in the electric car-charging field, with California’s Better Place holding talks this week with the governor of Michigan. Better Place, which is developing its own car-charging network, is [...]</p> [...] players in the electric car-charging field, with California’s Better Place holding talks this week with the governor of Michigan. Better Place, which is developing its own car-charging network, is [...]

]]> By: Could Japan’s Kyushu Become an EV Hub? « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20924 Could Japan’s Kyushu Become an EV Hub? « Earth2Tech Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:28:54 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20924 <p>[...] players in the electric car-charging field, with California’s Better Place holding talks this week with the governor of Michigan. Better Place, which is developing its own car-charging network, is [...]</p> [...] players in the electric car-charging field, with California’s Better Place holding talks this week with the governor of Michigan. Better Place, which is developing its own car-charging network, is [...]

]]> By: Shai Aggasi of Better Place talks with John Battelle « OPENUPtheSUN http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20921 Shai Aggasi of Better Place talks with John Battelle « OPENUPtheSUN Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:59:38 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20921 <p>[...] earth2tech has a related article in which Governor Jennifer Grandholm makes a trip to Israel to visit Shai and Better Place: Michigan Governor Looking for A Better Detroit? [...]</p> [...] earth2tech has a related article in which Governor Jennifer Grandholm makes a trip to Israel to visit Shai and Better Place: Michigan Governor Looking for A Better Detroit? [...]

]]> By: DH http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20919 DH Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:40:54 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20919 <p>Better Place's ("BP") idea is the dumbest thing ever. It is premised on the assumption that battery technology will not evolve and improve. Battery technology is technology. With time, technology gets better and costs less. Look at processors, LCD TVs, etc. Investment into battery technology has been growing exponentially since the advent of laptops, cellphones, PDAs. Batteries can already get us 100 miles. How much improvement do we need before BP's "recharging/swapping stations" become redundant? BP plans to have it's infrastructure set up in Australia by 2012. As per normal delays, that means it will actually be set up by 2014-16. There are no plans for the USA. So, at the earliest, infrastructure would be set up here by 2018. That is a decade away. Where do you think battery technology will be in a decade? It in all likelihood, it will be in a place that makes BP's charging stations redundant before they even got started. All BP is trying to do is get into the market early to create a electricity network monopoly. When consumers realize that their batteries are good enough so that the network is redundant, BP's monopoly will disintegrate.</p> Better Place’s (“BP”) idea is the dumbest thing ever. It is premised on the assumption that battery technology will not evolve and improve. Battery technology is technology. With time, technology gets better and costs less. Look at processors, LCD TVs, etc. Investment into battery technology has been growing exponentially since the advent of laptops, cellphones, PDAs. Batteries can already get us 100 miles. How much improvement do we need before BP’s “recharging/swapping stations” become redundant? BP plans to have it’s infrastructure set up in Australia by 2012. As per normal delays, that means it will actually be set up by 2014-16. There are no plans for the USA. So, at the earliest, infrastructure would be set up here by 2018. That is a decade away. Where do you think battery technology will be in a decade? It in all likelihood, it will be in a place that makes BP’s charging stations redundant before they even got started. All BP is trying to do is get into the market early to create a electricity network monopoly. When consumers realize that their batteries are good enough so that the network is redundant, BP’s monopoly will disintegrate.

]]> By: Garry G http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20918 Garry G Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:09:21 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20918 <p>I am a big fan of Shai Agassi and have followed the 'swap out' model biz model as it has evolved from years ago when it was proposed in a Shell energy scenrio.</p> <p>Where I think Agassi is spot on - is separating the purchase of vehicle from energy storage system. Reduce the risk and uncertainty for the consumer!</p> <p>In the end, I think it will be a combination of batteries, fuel cells and capacitors that drive the electric vehicle industry forward. So I'm not sure about the electric charge stations... but the 'swap out' model is perfect!</p> <p>There is a great 30 minute video interview from Web 2.0 conference with Shai Agassi at:</p> <p>http://www.theenergyroadmap.com/futureblogger/show/1259-video-interview-on-electric-cars-with-shai-agassi-time-for-big-bets-and-disruptive-business-models</p> <p>Thanks Garry G Editor TheEnergyRoadmap.com</p> I am a big fan of Shai Agassi and have followed the ’swap out’ model biz model as it has evolved from years ago when it was proposed in a Shell energy scenrio.

Where I think Agassi is spot on – is separating the purchase of vehicle from energy storage system. Reduce the risk and uncertainty for the consumer!

In the end, I think it will be a combination of batteries, fuel cells and capacitors that drive the electric vehicle industry forward. So I’m not sure about the electric charge stations… but the ’swap out’ model is perfect!

There is a great 30 minute video interview from Web 2.0 conference with Shai Agassi at:

http://www.theenergyroadmap.com/futureblogger/show/1259-video-interview-on-electric-cars-with-shai-agassi-time-for-big-bets-and-disruptive-business-models

Thanks
Garry G
Editor
TheEnergyRoadmap.com

]]> By: Nissan Going Electric in China « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20914 Nissan Going Electric in China « Earth2Tech Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:45:42 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20914 <p>[...] Nissan already has some significant electric vehicle deals lined up with its French partner Renault, under the Renault-Nissan Alliance. The Alliance is working with California’s Better Place, a car-charging network developer, on projects in Israel, Denmark and Australia, and has also cut deals of its own with Portugal, France, the Kanagawa Prefecture in Japan and, in the U.S., Tennessee. More deals could be on the way; the governor of Michigan met with Better Place in Israel this week. [...]</p> [...] Nissan already has some significant electric vehicle deals lined up with its French partner Renault, under the Renault-Nissan Alliance. The Alliance is working with California’s Better Place, a car-charging network developer, on projects in Israel, Denmark and Australia, and has also cut deals of its own with Portugal, France, the Kanagawa Prefecture in Japan and, in the U.S., Tennessee. More deals could be on the way; the governor of Michigan met with Better Place in Israel this week. [...]

]]> By: Better Place Community http://earth2tech.com/2008/11/18/michigan-governor-looking-for-a-better-detroit/#comment-20911 Better Place Community Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:42:27 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=15698#comment-20911 <p>You can follow us on Twitter @bpcommunity to get the latest updates and letting us know what you think about the electric car network industry. We like to hear from you. See you there :)</p> You can follow us on Twitter @bpcommunity to get the latest updates and letting us know what you think about the electric car network industry. We like to hear from you. See you there :)

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