Comments on: Gulf of Maine Wind Proposal Could Cost $25B http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/ Helping the Earth with Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:25:19 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Brett Whittemore http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-40055 Brett Whittemore Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:09:28 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-40055 <p>Poop windmills</p> Poop windmills

]]> By: lance sjogren http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-37098 lance sjogren Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:57:26 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-37098 <p>What is the alternative? Should we just allow civilization to die due to lack of energy resources?</p> What is the alternative? Should we just allow civilization to die due to lack of energy resources?

]]> By: home made wind generators http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-33835 home made wind generators Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:32:03 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-33835 <p>Smart article.. Will come back again=)</p> Smart article.. Will come back again=)

]]> By: U.S. Interior Department Touts Offshore Wind http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-28429 U.S. Interior Department Touts Offshore Wind Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:01:30 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-28429 <p>[...] while offshore wind can cost twice as much as onshore projects, some of the offshore potential might not have such a high price tag. The [...]</p> [...] while offshore wind can cost twice as much as onshore projects, some of the offshore potential might not have such a high price tag. The [...]

]]> By: Cliff Carroll http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-25177 Cliff Carroll Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:08:10 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-25177 <p>The costs of a poorly chosen offshore wind farm is best exhibited by the Cape Wind Nantucket Sound offshore industrial plant proposed just off the beaches of Cape Cod. This sprawling 25 square mile industrial plant (size of the island of Manhattan) will tower 44 stories above the pristine shore lines of the island of Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard and Cape Cod. In the middle of it a 10 story transformer filled with 40,000 gallons of transformer oil. The local airports, ferry lines and chambers of commerce have strongly protested the threats presented to our navigation, tourism and fragile eco system. This project is not offshore, it is off our beaches. And for what? According to section F of the federal DEIS it will Double our electric rates and that is after an estimated $70,000,000 a year in Federal and State hand outs for the next 10 to 20 years. The USCG recently told the President of the Mass Fishermens Partnership (3800 fishermen) that they will have to find another palce to fish. Outrageous!! Offshore wind is like the Hindenburg, just take a look at the insane $2 Billion Cape Wind proposal, it is destined to crash and burn before it is even built. Let's put our tax payer dollars where they will count, not in some private developers pocket www.windstop.org</p> The costs of a poorly chosen offshore wind farm is best exhibited by the Cape Wind Nantucket Sound offshore industrial plant proposed just off the beaches of Cape Cod. This sprawling 25 square mile industrial plant (size of the island of Manhattan) will tower 44 stories above the pristine shore lines of the island of Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard and Cape Cod. In the middle of it a 10 story transformer filled with 40,000 gallons of transformer oil. The local airports, ferry lines and chambers of commerce have strongly protested the threats presented to our navigation, tourism and fragile eco system. This project is not offshore, it is off our beaches. And for what? According to section F of the federal DEIS it will Double our electric rates and that is after an estimated $70,000,000 a year in Federal and State hand outs for the next 10 to 20 years.
The USCG recently told the President of the Mass Fishermens Partnership (3800 fishermen) that they will have to find another palce to fish. Outrageous!!
Offshore wind is like the Hindenburg, just take a look at the insane $2 Billion Cape Wind proposal, it is destined to crash and burn before it is even built.
Let’s put our tax payer dollars where they will count, not in some private developers pocket
http://www.windstop.org

]]> By: Casco Bay Boaters Blog » » Offshore Wind: Costly, But Big Benefits http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-24501 Casco Bay Boaters Blog » » Offshore Wind: Costly, But Big Benefits Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:38:41 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-24501 <p>[...] After all, in a report on U.S. wind power potential last year, that country’s Department of Energy said the capital cost of offshore projects ranged from $2,400 to $5,000 per kilowatt, while onshore capital costs averaged $1,775 per kW. And a proposed offshore wind farm in Maine is being billed at $5 billion per gigawatt — or a whopping $25 billion. [...]</p> [...] After all, in a report on U.S. wind power potential last year, that country’s Department of Energy said the capital cost of offshore projects ranged from $2,400 to $5,000 per kilowatt, while onshore capital costs averaged $1,775 per kW. And a proposed offshore wind farm in Maine is being billed at $5 billion per gigawatt — or a whopping $25 billion. [...]

]]> By: Floating Offshore Wind Power | The Oil Report http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-22255 Floating Offshore Wind Power | The Oil Report Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:03:06 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-22255 <p>[...] a bit of press in the past week, after his Ocean Energy Institute floated a proposal to build a $25 billion, 5 GW wind farm in the Gulf of [...]</p> [...] a bit of press in the past week, after his Ocean Energy Institute floated a proposal to build a $25 billion, 5 GW wind farm in the Gulf of [...]

]]> By: Clifford J. Wirth, Ph.D. http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-22082 Clifford J. Wirth, Ph.D. Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:22:51 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-22082 <p>Independent studies conclude that global crude oil production will now decline from 74 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. During the same time, demand will increase. Oil supplies will be even tighter for the U.S. As oil producing nations consume more and more oil domestically they will export less and less. Because demand is high in China, India, the Middle East, and other oil producing nations, once global oil production begins to decline, demand will always be higher than supply. And since the U.S. represents one fourth of global oil demand, whatever oil we conserve will be consumed elsewhere. Thus, conservation in the U.S. will not slow oil depletion rates significantly.</p> <p>Alternatives will not even begin to fill the gap. And most alternatives yield electric power, but we need liquid fuels for tractors/combines, 18 wheel trucks, trains, ships, and mining equipment. The independent scientists of the Energy Watch Group conclude in a current report titled: “Peak Oil Could Trigger Meltdown of Society:”</p> <p>"By 2020, and even more by 2030, global oil supply will be dramatically lower. This will create a supply gap which can hardly be closed by growing contributions from other fossil, nuclear or alternative energy sources in this time frame."</p> <p>http://www.energywatchgroup.org/fileadmin/global/pdf/EWG_Press_Oilreport_22-10-2007.pdf</p> <p>With increasing costs for gasoline and diesel, along with declining taxes and declining gasoline tax revenues, states and local governments will eventually have to cut staff and curtail highway maintenance. Eventually, gasoline stations will close, and state and local highway workers won’t be able to get to work. We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel and gasoline powered trucks for bridge maintenance, culvert cleaning to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, and roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, large transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables from great distances. With the highways out, there will be no food coming from far away, and without the power grid virtually nothing modern works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated building systems.</p> <p>This is documented in a free 48 page report that can be downloaded, website posted, distributed, and emailed: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html</p> <p>I used to live in NH-USA, but moved to a sustainable place. Anyone interested in relocating to a nice, pretty, sustainable area with a good climate and good soil? Email: clifford dot wirth at yahoo dot com or give me a phone call which operates here as my old USA-NH number 603-668-4207. http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/</p> Independent studies conclude that global crude oil production will now decline from 74 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. During the same time, demand will increase. Oil supplies will be even tighter for the U.S. As oil producing nations consume more and more oil domestically they will export less and less. Because demand is high in China, India, the Middle East, and other oil producing nations, once global oil production begins to decline, demand will always be higher than supply. And since the U.S. represents one fourth of global oil demand, whatever oil we conserve will be consumed elsewhere. Thus, conservation in the U.S. will not slow oil depletion rates significantly.

Alternatives will not even begin to fill the gap. And most alternatives yield electric power, but we need liquid fuels for tractors/combines, 18 wheel trucks, trains, ships, and mining equipment. The independent scientists of the Energy Watch Group conclude in a current report titled: “Peak Oil Could Trigger Meltdown of Society:”

“By 2020, and even more by 2030, global oil supply will be dramatically lower. This will create a supply gap which can hardly be closed by growing contributions from other fossil, nuclear or alternative energy sources in this time frame.”

http://www.energywatchgroup.org/fileadmin/global/pdf/EWG_Press_Oilreport_22-10-2007.pdf

With increasing costs for gasoline and diesel, along with declining taxes and declining gasoline tax revenues, states and local governments will eventually have to cut staff and curtail highway maintenance. Eventually, gasoline stations will close, and state and local highway workers won’t be able to get to work. We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel and gasoline powered trucks for bridge maintenance, culvert cleaning to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, and roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, large transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables from great distances. With the highways out, there will be no food coming from far away, and without the power grid virtually nothing modern works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated building systems.

This is documented in a free 48 page report that can be downloaded, website posted, distributed, and emailed: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html

I used to live in NH-USA, but moved to a sustainable place. Anyone interested in relocating to a nice, pretty, sustainable area with a good climate and good soil? Email: clifford dot wirth at yahoo dot com or give me a phone call which operates here as my old USA-NH number 603-668-4207. http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Commodities Broker | Floating Offshore Wind Power | Commodities Options | Commodities Futures | Commodities Prices http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-22057 Commodities Broker | Floating Offshore Wind Power | Commodities Options | Commodities Futures | Commodities Prices Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:20:30 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-22057 <p>[...] a bit of press in the past week, after his Ocean Energy Institute floated a proposal to build a $25 billion, 5 GW wind farm in the Gulf of [...]</p> [...] a bit of press in the past week, after his Ocean Energy Institute floated a proposal to build a $25 billion, 5 GW wind farm in the Gulf of [...]

]]> By: Floating Offshore Wind Power http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-22007 Floating Offshore Wind Power Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:02:16 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-22007 <p>[...] a bit of press in the past week, after his Ocean Energy Institute floated a proposal to build a $25 billion, 5 GW wind farm in the Gulf of [...]</p> [...] a bit of press in the past week, after his Ocean Energy Institute floated a proposal to build a $25 billion, 5 GW wind farm in the Gulf of [...]

]]> By: Avista Stalls Its Wind Power Plans « Earth2Tech http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-21612 Avista Stalls Its Wind Power Plans « Earth2Tech Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:06:03 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-21612 <p>[...] But Butler maintains that long-term prospects for wind and other renewables still look good. After all, some large long-term wind plans are still getting funding. Spanish wind company Union Fenosa said Monday it would spend more than $1.9 billion to develop wind farms in Australia. That’s after Matthew Simmon’s Ocean Energy Institute last week proposed building a 5-gigawatt offshore wind farm, a project that could cost as much as $25 billion. [...]</p> [...] But Butler maintains that long-term prospects for wind and other renewables still look good. After all, some large long-term wind plans are still getting funding. Spanish wind company Union Fenosa said Monday it would spend more than $1.9 billion to develop wind farms in Australia. That’s after Matthew Simmon’s Ocean Energy Institute last week proposed building a 5-gigawatt offshore wind farm, a project that could cost as much as $25 billion. [...]

]]> By: A Shore Thing? Why Offshore Wind Power Will Likely Struggle | Barack Obama http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-21566 A Shore Thing? Why Offshore Wind Power Will Likely Struggle | Barack Obama Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:05:09 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-21566 <p>[...] his massive Texas wind farm. All in, the costs for the Maine project could come to $25 billion, or $5 billion a megawatt, the Ocean Energy folks told Earth2Tech. That compares to upfront costs of about $600 million per [...]</p> [...] his massive Texas wind farm. All in, the costs for the Maine project could come to $25 billion, or $5 billion a megawatt, the Ocean Energy folks told Earth2Tech. That compares to upfront costs of about $600 million per [...]

]]> By: Environmental Capital - WSJ.com : A Shore Thing? Why Offshore Wind Power Will Likely Struggle http://earth2tech.com/2008/12/01/gulf-of-maine-wind-proposal-could-cost-25b/#comment-21564 Environmental Capital - WSJ.com : A Shore Thing? Why Offshore Wind Power Will Likely Struggle Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:34:27 +0000 http://earth2tech.com/?p=16453#comment-21564 <p>[...] his massive Texas wind farm. All in, the costs for the Maine project could come to $25 billion, or $5 billion a megawatt, the Ocean Energy folks told Earth2Tech. That compares to upfront costs of about $600 million per [...]</p> [...] his massive Texas wind farm. All in, the costs for the Maine project could come to $25 billion, or $5 billion a megawatt, the Ocean Energy folks told Earth2Tech. That compares to upfront costs of about $600 million per [...]

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