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	<title>Comments on: EU to Trial &#8220;Road Train&#8221; Tech: Sensor-Enabled Automated Driving (Whoa!)</title>
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		<title>By: mark w</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-49717</link>
		<dc:creator>mark w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Granted, but it&#039;s certainly not a brand-new &quot;whoa!&quot; idea, it was demoed more than 10 years ago. It&#039;s an egregious omission to neglect to mention that.  The magnets in the roadway are pretty ingenious actually, they make a vision system (if that&#039;s what the SARTE researchers are going to use for lanekeeping) unnecessary, and they are totally impervious to rain/snow or other environmental/lighting conditions which confuse vision systems. There is no reason in principle magnets could not be placed inside reflectors that are commonly installed on roadways, in California at least.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted, but it&#8217;s certainly not a brand-new &#8220;whoa!&#8221; idea, it was demoed more than 10 years ago. It&#8217;s an egregious omission to neglect to mention that.  The magnets in the roadway are pretty ingenious actually, they make a vision system (if that&#8217;s what the SARTE researchers are going to use for lanekeeping) unnecessary, and they are totally impervious to rain/snow or other environmental/lighting conditions which confuse vision systems. There is no reason in principle magnets could not be placed inside reflectors that are commonly installed on roadways, in California at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41794</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder about trains and special roadways and all that stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just read a blurb about DARPA currently testing driverless cars driving through real traffic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m guessing that implementation might be less restrictive than what is suggested in this article.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Start with putting radar in cars.  Radar locks you on to the vehicle in front of you.  It slows down, your car slows down.  Sophisticated cruise control.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Radar monitors for unusual &#039;things&#039; on a collision course.  Acquire a target and the vehicle begins to slow down/brake, alerts the driver, and sends a slow down alert to surrounding/following cars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Everything except notifying other cars is technology already being installed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are vacuum cleaners that are that smart.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Put position guides along highways.  These might be nothing more sophisticated than the painted lines on roads in non-snowy conditions. Visual markers of some sort.  Something cheap.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not seeing a need for a &#039;lead driver&#039;.  Certainly no need for an implanted road cable like early test systems.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about trains and special roadways and all that stuff.</p>
<p>I just read a blurb about DARPA currently testing driverless cars driving through real traffic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that implementation might be less restrictive than what is suggested in this article.</p>
<p>Start with putting radar in cars.  Radar locks you on to the vehicle in front of you.  It slows down, your car slows down.  Sophisticated cruise control.</p>
<p>Radar monitors for unusual &#8216;things&#8217; on a collision course.  Acquire a target and the vehicle begins to slow down/brake, alerts the driver, and sends a slow down alert to surrounding/following cars.</p>
<p>Everything except notifying other cars is technology already being installed.</p>
<p>There are vacuum cleaners that are that smart.</p>
<p>Put position guides along highways.  These might be nothing more sophisticated than the painted lines on roads in non-snowy conditions. Visual markers of some sort.  Something cheap.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not seeing a need for a &#8216;lead driver&#8217;.  Certainly no need for an implanted road cable like early test systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Josie Garthwaite</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41782</link>
		<dc:creator>Josie Garthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ha&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41777</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;News stories will be something like:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A disgruntled computer programmer hacked his own car&#039;s wifi system, re-programmed it, and &quot;stole&quot; a convoy of cars, leading them to the wrong destination in the middle of nowhere.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(-:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News stories will be something like:</p>
<p>A disgruntled computer programmer hacked his own car&#8217;s wifi system, re-programmed it, and &#8220;stole&#8221; a convoy of cars, leading them to the wrong destination in the middle of nowhere.</p>
<p>(-:</p>
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		<title>By: Josie Garthwaite</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41774</link>
		<dc:creator>Josie Garthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not quite. The PATH system required a special roadway (see the Berkeleyan&#039;s explanation here: http://berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/1998/0819/path.html). In the Sartre project, all of the tech will be installed on the vehicles themselves -- an important difference if this tech is going to get beyond the demo stage.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite. The PATH system required a special roadway (see the Berkeleyan&#8217;s explanation here: <a href="http://berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/1998/0819/path.html)" rel="nofollow">http://berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/1998/0819/path.html)</a>. In the Sartre project, all of the tech will be installed on the vehicles themselves &#8212; an important difference if this tech is going to get beyond the demo stage.</p>
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		<title>By: mark w</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41734</link>
		<dc:creator>mark w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Been there, done that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In 1997 California PATH demoed a fully functional &quot;road train&quot; in San Diego. See the video at&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.path.berkeley.edu/PATH/Publications/Videos/NAHSC2.html#&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there, done that.</p>
<p>In 1997 California PATH demoed a fully functional &#8220;road train&#8221; in San Diego. See the video at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.path.berkeley.edu/PATH/Publications/Videos/NAHSC2.html#" rel="nofollow">http://www.path.berkeley.edu/PATH/Publications/Videos/NAHSC2.html#</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josie Garthwaite</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41710</link>
		<dc:creator>Josie Garthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How cool - I didn&#039;t know about those Highway 99 convoys. Anyone know if that&#039;s been tried elsewhere?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cool &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know about those Highway 99 convoys. Anyone know if that&#8217;s been tried elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
		<link>http://earth2tech.com/2009/11/10/eu-to-trial-road-train-tech-sensor-enabled-automated-driving-whoa/#comment-41707</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it a great idea.  Sure, problems to be solved but that&#039;s what research is all about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I used to live in the Central Valley of CA where the tule fog can set in for days and it was hard to see more than a couple car lengths in front of your ride.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Highway Patrol used to run &#039;convoys&#039; for those of us who had to make our way north or south on Highway 99.  They would cruise along a bit under the speed limit with their lights flashing and we would fall in behind like ducklings following mom.  It decreased our odds of smashing into a stopped vehicle.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Think of being able to put a lead car in the HP position, one with really good radar able to probe miles ahead for stopped vehicles, whatever.  Ducklings queue up on the freeway entrances and wait for a &quot;hook up&quot; signal from the last car in the convoy.  Accelerate into line and go on auto pilot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Get a notice from your car ahead of reaching your peel off time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even stick one of those &#039;rear defender&#039; trucks that they use to protect line painting trucks at the back of the pack.  Could mean an end to the huge multi-vehicle pileups in the fog....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and collision avoidance radar is already being factory installed in some up market cars.  Radar could make individual drivers in the train aware of something like a dog or deer running toward the road.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it a great idea.  Sure, problems to be solved but that&#8217;s what research is all about.</p>
<p>I used to live in the Central Valley of CA where the tule fog can set in for days and it was hard to see more than a couple car lengths in front of your ride.</p>
<p>The Highway Patrol used to run &#8216;convoys&#8217; for those of us who had to make our way north or south on Highway 99.  They would cruise along a bit under the speed limit with their lights flashing and we would fall in behind like ducklings following mom.  It decreased our odds of smashing into a stopped vehicle.</p>
<p>Think of being able to put a lead car in the HP position, one with really good radar able to probe miles ahead for stopped vehicles, whatever.  Ducklings queue up on the freeway entrances and wait for a &#8220;hook up&#8221; signal from the last car in the convoy.  Accelerate into line and go on auto pilot.</p>
<p>Get a notice from your car ahead of reaching your peel off time.</p>
<p>Even stick one of those &#8216;rear defender&#8217; trucks that they use to protect line painting trucks at the back of the pack.  Could mean an end to the huge multi-vehicle pileups in the fog&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh, and collision avoidance radar is already being factory installed in some up market cars.  Radar could make individual drivers in the train aware of something like a dog or deer running toward the road.</p>
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